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My 16 Yr Old Constantly Lie's and Defies rules and Disobey's Parents
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Kevin Kennedy, Ph.D. - Child and Adolescent Psychotherapy, Family Therapy, Crisis Intervention
Harvard Vanguard Medical Associates
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My 16 Yr Old Constantly Lie's and Defies rules and Disobey's Parents

by Dennis, Jan 12, 2000 12:00AM
My 16 Yr old Step daughter is constantly lieing about school work and anything else that she is in trouble for. If she is guilty of not doing her Schoold work - her excuse is that the teacher never gave her a homework assignment- or if she gets in trouble at school - the other person is at fault reguardless of what it is abotu or for. She is always on the defensive reguardless of what the situation.  She has been hospitalized for Sucidal tendency's and Behavioral disorder's. She was kept for a month and released on medication (effexor) (35.7 Nighttime)(75 daytime) and it seems to help but she wont take it all the time and it shows. She has recently spent time in Claxton (a juvenile Detention center)( her 16th birthday) for her last behaviorial outbreak which lost the family pet of 2 years. She had left home without permission and took the family dog with her knowing she wasn't allowed to take the pet away from the house, and it got killed (ran over) trying to follow her when she left for home (she forgot to get her). She was on restriction at the time and had lied to a family friend about a birthday party that never took place. When we called the parent to report the incident about the party (A lie), the girls mother went looking for her daughter (where she was suppose to meet her) which took her over 2 hours to find her because of my Stepdaughters disrespectful attitude and negelgence of household rules. She is taken medication but she doesnt take it all the time therefore she gets in Moods and gets very argumentive with us (her parents) and her school teachers.  She is ofter late for school and plays Hooky if she gets the chance. We have an open line for that reason for the school. She is on prbation from the last incident and still doesnt give a darn about the rules and argues with her mother most of the time, wont help out around the house, wont keep her room clean, (lives like a pig) and she is consitantly talking, Her father commited sucide a years ago November 30, and she blames me for it, calles me a mental murder. and has accused me of everything and anything under the sky. I have to go to court now for a runin I had with her spraying me in the eyes with Room deordizer (Airasole can)mot once but twice- and I am the one that called the Police on an unruley child- but because I ran after her to get the can away from her - she fell and hit her arm on the wall causeing a mark on her arm as she fell trying to turn into her room to fast. They took me in because she told the police I pushed her and I was nowhere near her when she fell - but they still took me in for DV Battery (domestic violence battery) because of her lies. This child is in need of help badly but we cant get the doctors to recgonize her problems or disrespectful attutide.  Is there something that were missing or should we take her back in to be checked again. The Mental doctor has released her to out patient theriopy, and she has been placed on probation, but that doesnt seem to phase her in anyway and she continues to not take her medication, which causes her to react with outburst and disrespect, and anything she can cause trouble with, I'm at wits end with her and would love to get her the help she requires - but I'm not sure I can tolerate anymore actions like this - it is getting costly (laywer fee's, Court cost and bail bonds.) not to mention the way others look at us when we walk into a room or restrant ( we live in a small town).. Please help if you can - I need it before I revert to a foster home or Detention hall for her. She is headed to jail if she continues her ways, and she is a wonderful child when she wants to be..

by Kevin Kennedy, Ph.D., Jan 12, 2000 12:00AM
Dear Dennis,



Your stepdaughter is clearly quite troubled, and likely displays a mood disorder and disruptive behavior disorder. The medication she takes must be taken faithfully in order to maintain a therapeutic level in the blood. If it's taken on an inconsistent basis, it will not be helpful.



Yes, it makes sense to be persistent in getting her help. She probably will not respond favorably to a regimen of only outpatient therapy and medication. She may require residential treatment, partial hospitalization (i.e., day treatment), an alternative school placement, etc. - i.e., intensive intervention.



Your stepdaughter should also undergo a substance abuse evaluation if this has not already occurred.
Member Comments (5)

by Scooter's Mom, Jan 12, 2000 12:00AM
Hello Dennis,

If and when your situation reaches a crisis status, I urge you to be prepared.  Meaning, make a few phone calls to residential centers asking them how their program addresses your child's needs.  How long, if any, is the waiting list?  How often do staff communicate?  By what means?  Are staff regularly retrained?  Also, you may ask whether parental input is allowed, how medication issues are regulated, and how your daughter would be weened back into her home life.



You are definately not alone.  Stay lovingly positive/in control.

by Todd Caroll, Mar 01, 2000 12:00AM
Hi dennis! I am a 16 yr old with ADHD. Though I have not gone through as much trouble as your daughter has I have had some incedences myself. Early on in my life I had lots of problems I would lie to my father about the most pointless things. He would always tell me "Todd if you lie to anyone, anywhere you will always be found out". I did not take this to heart until later on in life when my father re-married to a women whom I perseaved as taking my mother's place. She had me take tests at local behavioral centers to see exactly what my problem was. At first I  was really pissed of and thinking this lady is a real ?$%^& . But after a while people started to tell me that I was acting differently and that I seemed in better spirits. When I first started taking a drug called Welbutrin for my ADHD problem I would forget or somtimes I  would perposly not take it just to **** my parents off. My mom got me a daily medicine case like the ones old people use so they won't forget. It has the days of the week labled on there and it helped me a whole lot. Before my step-mom came my dad would hit me and yell at me when I did things that were wrong and I hated Him for it. This cycle of hate  kept going on and on until one day my dad sat down and had a talk with me. There was no screamin, yelling, or, hitting involved. We sat there on the couch for 5 hours going over the past and what I did and he did. That talk made me think about all the things i had done and let me tell you it was the most helpful thing I have ever had. It was far better then the yelling and hitting and it impacted me more than the test results medicine and everyting else they tried. I encourage you to try the same thing my parents did and just talk to her if she refuses just ask her to listen to your side of the story she will listen trust me. If she wants to argue a point let her argue you might understand her point of view. My advice is just sit down and have a long Talk.

by danny ramseur, Aug 20, 2000 12:00AM
i am a 16 year old man. when i see this letter it sickens me to see that she spends time in a correctional facility! that is wrong! what she needs to do is be with her friends and not couped up in the house like i am. i am currently grounded for 2 weeks for staying over at a friends house and coming home around 8:30 pm. and for taking the car for a joy ride for about 30 minutes. now i admit that was wrong, but my parents should get over it and move on with their lives and mine. the reason why she is out of control is because you should just let her be and not correct her. because that would make her more mean at you. believe me i am plenty mad at my parents. i just want to let everyone who reads this is to let us teenagers be and not locked up like dogs at a pound and they will just become meaner with time.

by danny ramseur, Aug 20, 2000 12:00AM
i am a 16 year old man. when i see this letter it sickens me to see that she spends time in a correctional facility! that is wrong! what she needs to do is be with her friends and not couped up in the house like i am. i am currently grounded for 2 weeks for staying over at a friends house and coming home around 8:30 pm. and for taking the car for a joy ride for about 30 minutes. now i admit that was wrong, but my parents should get over it and move on with their lives and mine. the reason why she is out of control is because you should just let her be and not correct her. because that would make her more mean at you. believe me i am plenty mad at my parents. i just want to let everyone who reads this is to let us teenagers be and not locked up like dogs at a pound and they will just become meaner with time.
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