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ALOT OF SPIT AND AIDS
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ALOT OF SPIT AND AIDS

by stupidass, Jun 22, 2007 12:00AM
Hi again, thanks for all your great work my question is this, now I know saliva carries small amounts of hiv but that the saliva inhibits it and its basically impossible to transmit HIV that way BUT I was out at a gogo bar and this gogo dancer spit in my mouth, not a small amount but a LARGE AMOUNT, it was almost like drinking soda or water , like a quarter cup. what are my chances of contracting HIV in this case. I am very concerned and losing sleep here and cant think straight. Thanks again.

by H. Hunter Handsfield, M.D., Jun 22, 2007 12:00AM
HIV is not known to be transmitted by saliva, rgardless of the amount.

I won't delete the comments posted before this reply (below), but please take any further discussion over to the HIV Support forum, not here.  Also  note forum rule that stipulates no more than 2 questions by a person in a 6 month period.

HHH, MD
Member Comments (7)

by monkeyflower, Jun 22, 2007 12:00AM
A quarter of a cup of spit? Come on. No one can manufacture that much spit, lol. But regardless, no risk. No risk multiplied by a million is still no risk.

You aren't "possible?", are you? He had a eerily similar scenario, and he was at no risk, either. Which he's been told eight gazillion times, to no effect.

by Possible??, Jun 22, 2007 12:00AM
To: stupidass
I had a similiar situation where a female took a drink of her drink and spit it into mine. So obvoiusly there would have been alot of saliva mixed in the contents from it being in her mouth. From all the numerous hours of research that I have done the chances of being infected from saliva are basically zero. My only concern would be if there was somehow blood mixed in with the contents.

So as long as your gogo dancer did not have blood in her mouth, you should be in the clear.

by stupidass, Jun 22, 2007 12:00AM
To: monkeyflower
well she was chewing on gum so there was a large amount of spit in her mouth , whether a quarter cup or not i dont know but there was an amount that felt like i just took a drink of water from a water fountain for a second or two, thanks for your reply im starting to see that there is no risk now, thanks

by notAnExpert1, Jun 22, 2007 12:00AM
Even if there was blood in the salvia, the risk would have been negligible. You have to swallow a HUGE and I mean HUGE amount of blood to catch HIV via salvia. Dr H has mentioned the case for example of baby's drinking HIV+ mother's milk for a year and not catching HIV (In that case probability of  catching after a year of having mothers milk is only %15)

by rolex4567, Jun 22, 2007 12:00AM
well not sure, if Its correct. Somewhere I read, that viral load in saliva is so low, that you need to drink 5 litre of it to get hiv.

by bemyown234, Jun 22, 2007 12:00AM

Saliva never carries HIV in transmissible quantities and even has substances which inactivate HIV virus.
Nobody , or almost nobody has ever been shown to have developed HIV following acts involving Saliva including oral sex and deep kissing.
The episode you desctibe is no risk for HIv, even if the other person was HIV positive, which it most likely isnt.
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