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ABORTION

by renay99, Oct 23, 2003 12:00AM
ANYONE HERE EVER HEARD OF PENNYROYAL INDUCING ABORTION.  I HAVE AN APPOINTMENT FOR AN ABORTION ON SATURDAY AND REALLY DON'T WANT TO GO THROUGH THAT.  SO I WAS WOMDERING IF ANYONE HAS EVER TRIED THIS AND IS IT SAFE?  HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE?
Member Comments (51)

by betty77, Oct 23, 2003 12:00AM
Nice, why don't you post that **** somewhere else.



Sorry but that PISSES me off.



B.

by hther, Oct 23, 2003 12:00AM
Just want to warn you that you will most likely catch heat for that question on here with so many women trying to conceive. Herbal remedies for abortion are not safe, are not regulated and can cause vicious side effects including death. Go to www.sisterzeus.com there is a section there about that topic. Also for all you herbal remedy fans there is a section about fertility and herbs. This site is about women and herbs so there is an abortion link there too, don't be offended.



Heather

by Suze-ee, Oct 23, 2003 12:00AM
How 'bout you be accountable and responsible for your actions, carry the baby you created by your reckless actions to term, and adopt it out to a loving family who's been desperately trying to have a child?



Grow up.



by Suze-ee, Oct 23, 2003 12:00AM
I see from your previous post you're 28 years old.  Old enough for a serious lesson in how to be accountable for your behavior.

by hther, Oct 23, 2003 12:00AM
To: suz-ee
If you read the other post you may have realized your judgement on this situation is not needed.  Obviously Betty did not read the post either. This person is going through a rough time and is looking/asking for help. Not only on abortion. Please try and be kind and express your views in a more constructive way. I am NOT trying to start an argument. Let that be very clear please. I only know that Renay is feeling very alone and scared. Renay99 if you would like to talk about this off the board feel free to email me. ***@****



Take care,

Heather

by skd7474, Oct 23, 2003 12:00AM
Abortion is such a tuff decision. On one hand maybe you shouldn't have the baby because you are not stable enough to have one, but on the other hand you may not be able to handle the abortion stress. You really need to get some conseling before you make this decision. If you need to talk write me ***@****

by Cahoon0201, Oct 23, 2003 12:00AM
I was beginning to wonder if I was the only one who got upset about this.  I'm new and thought I'd better keep my mouth shut, but that's really not like me.....



You have a lot of nerve posting something like that on here.  What the hell are you thinking? Did you not notice that the topic of this forum is Maternal/Child?



There are so many of us out here who have had serious fertility problems for a very long time; and many who have never been able to have children who want them desperately.  And YOU, who are taking VERY calculated steps to terminate the life of your child, are waving your viable pregnancy in their faces.  And you want HELP?!?!  Not to mention the fact that you are being TOTALLY irresponsible in your complete disregard for human life.



It is becoming very apparent to me that most people are under the impression that they are not accountable for their actions, maybe I'm just a little slow.  For every action in our lives there is a consequence, whether it be good or bad.  Your consequence at this moment is that you are pregnant.  If you think that's as bad as it gets, wait til you  have to deal with consequences of terminating this pregnancy, THAT my dear, is something you will have to live with for the rest of your life.......assuming of course that you actually have a conscience.



You need to find yourself another forum, I think you've caused more than enough damage for one day.

by renay99, Oct 23, 2003 12:00AM
THANK YOU HEATHER...I CAME HERE LOOKING FOR HELP I DIDN'T THINK YOU PEOPLE WERE HERE TO JUDGE ME.  YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT I'M GOING THROUGH AND HOW BAD IT HURTS ME ALREADY TO EVEN THINK OF HAVING AN ABORTION.  MY DR. HAS ME ON ANTI-DEPRESSANTS BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN SUICIDAL SINCE THE DEATH OF MY MOTHER.  THEY'RE NOT HELPING MUCH.  IT ALSO DOESN'T HELP FOR PEOPLE TO BE SO JUDGMENTAL OF ME WHEN I AM IN NEED OF SOME ONE TO TALK TO WHO CAN TRY AND UNDERSTAND.

by HopeinAl, Oct 23, 2003 12:00AM
To: renay please read!!!!!!
renay I know your in atough posistion, not having any family and this BF that uses you. I understand , but please don't murder this innocent child b/c of this. god created this baby adn he has plans for this child's life. And it's not fair to this little boy or girl for you take it's life. I'm beggin you to reconsider this. I wouuld give anything to have my children with me. Ihave lost 5 babies. My husband and i will adopt this baby and you will never have to deal with it again. we can go thur DHR and it will be so easy. All it takes is 9 months for this little child ot have alife, we are Christians and this baby will have the best things in life, please consider this, we will do whatever you need if will just have this child. my email is ***@**** please let us or somebody have this baby, but Don't kill this child please!!!



jeremiah 1:5 "before I formed you in the womb.... I knew you." GOD

by HopeinAl, Oct 23, 2003 12:00AM
To: renay please read!!!!!!
renay I know your in atough posistion, not having any family and this BF that uses you. I understand , but please don't murder this innocent child b/c of this. god created this baby adn he has plans for this child's life. And it's not fair to this little boy or girl for you take it's life. I'm beggin you to reconsider this. I wouuld give anything to have my children with me. Ihave lost 5 babies. My husband and i will adopt this baby and you will never have to deal with it again. we can go thur DHR and it will be so easy. All it takes is 9 months for this little child ot have alife, we are Christians and this baby will have the best things in life, please consider this, we will do whatever you need if will just have this child. my email is ***@**** please let us or somebody have this baby, but Don't kill this child please!!!



jeremiah 1:5 "before I formed you in the womb.... I knew you." GOD

by HopeinAl, Oct 23, 2003 12:00AM
To: renay please read!!!!!!
renay I know your in atough posistion, not having any family and this BF that uses you. I understand , but please don't murder this innocent child b/c of this. god created this baby adn he has plans for this child's life. And it's not fair to this little boy or girl for you take it's life. I'm beggin you to reconsider this. I wouuld give anything to have my children with me. Ihave lost 5 babies. My husband and i will adopt this baby and you will never have to deal with it again. we can go thur DHR and it will be so easy. All it takes is 9 months for this little child ot have alife, we are Christians and this baby will have the best things in life, please consider this, we will do whatever you need if will just have this child. my email is ***@**** please let us or somebody have this baby, but Don't kill this child please!!!



jeremiah 1:5 "before I formed you in the womb.... I knew you." GOD

by TanteMilly, Oct 23, 2003 12:00AM
I knew of a thirteen year old girl who was raped and became pregnant. Is she responsible and accountable for her actions? Please don't pass judgement along when you may not  know the person or their situation. People come here for help. If someone gets this response when they come to an anonymous forum, what should they expect going for answers at clinics? They become scared, and do dangerous things that we all regret. I know it hits home for some of the ladies on this forum, but we need to keep our wits about us and realize that not everyone is in the same situation as we may be - and they may not know where else to go. I love coming here and listening to the advice and comraderie all of the women feel - no one should be excluded. I wish everyone the best of luck in everything everyone needs. Shelley

by hther, Oct 23, 2003 12:00AM
Renay,



Email me or skd7474 please.



Heather

by renay99, Oct 23, 2003 12:00AM
To: Cahoon0201
I AM VERY SORRY FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE HAVING TROUBLE GETTING PREGNANT I IMAGINE IT IS A PRETTY HURTFUL SITUATION.  BUT SO IS KNOWING THAT YOU'RE PREGNANT WITH A CHILD WHO'S FATHER DOESN'T CARE ABOUT YOU.  I IMAGINE IT DOES HURT YOU TO SEE A POST LIKE MINE BUT THE SAME AS YOU NEED HELP I DO TO. I DON'T NEED TO BE ATTACKED.  I NEVER THOUGHT I BELIEVED IN ABORTION.  THE TOPIC IS MATERNAL/CHILD PREGNANCY NORMAL...SO FAR IT IS A NORMAL PREGNANCY.....THANK YOU.

by momof2princesses, Oct 23, 2003 12:00AM
Renay, I know you must be just beating yourself up right now, I read your previous post and it sounds like you really need to talk to someone, especially now that you are pregnant. Talk to a counselor or a pastor and really weigh your options before doing something that you may regret and something that may put you further down that road of depression. Certainly adoption is a good way to go, there are a lot of families out there that would be happy to take your baby and possibly help you through this. Getting an abortion is not an easy thing to do physically, mentally and emotionally, so really think about it before you make a decision. Take Care of yourself and maybe you should think about going to church somewhere, you'd be surprised by the strength you'll find there and the support. Lean on God and he will help you through these tough times.

Kendra

ttc#3 8 months

dd's (5) (2)

M/c 08/03

by Cahoon0201, Oct 23, 2003 12:00AM
Okay, now I feel REALLY bad....I didn't see Heather's post to Suzee....



I'm sorry if I have caused any more upheaval, just REALLY struck a nerve with me.  Maybe I ought to be a little more revealing in my reason for being so harsh.....and maybe everyone else ought to know as well in case there are any more Renays out there.  I've never talked about this before, so maybe that's why I'm so touchy about it.



I was forced by my mother to have an abortion at 17 that I DID NOT want....I didn't really know what I wanted at that time, but I knew that wasn't the route I wanted even though I had no idea how I was going to raise a child.  I felt very alone and scared to death because I didn't have any support whatsoever....I just had her there telling me what scum I was for becoming pregnant and that I had embarassed her.  I didn't know that I had any legal rights at that age, and after I found out that I did, it was too late.  I was so angry with myself for not knowing any better and I still have problems dealing with it to this day.  It has been 15 years and I have had to live with this every day.  Every time I look at my five beautiful children, I always think there should be six.  My husband says I shouldn't be so hard on myself because it was a long time ago and there's nothing I can do to change it, and he's probably right, but I had NO IDEA how life altering that one decision was going to be.  



I guess instead of chastising and judging you Renay, I should have been more compasionate, especially not knowing your circumstances.  I am truly sorry.  I think the earlier post about the counseling is probably an excellent idea.