Member Comments are provided by individuals and reflect their personal opinions only. Under NO circumstances should you act on any advice or opinion posted in this forum.  ALWAYS check with your personal physician before taking any action regarding your health! MedHelp International and our partners, sponsors and affiliates have no obligation to monitor any comments posted on this site, or the content and/or accuracy of such exchanges. MedHelp International does not endorse the views of any user.

Addiction: Substance Abuse Community

This community is a place to share information and support with others who are trying to stop using drugs, prescription drugs, alcohol, tobacco or other addictive substances. Discuss with others, the symptoms of addiction, addiction recovery, ways to quit like tapering and cold turkey, and withdrawal symptoms. If you are interested in general "chat", please visit our Addiction Social Community.
 | 

Can anyone relate to this?

by pbintx, Jul 13, 2001 12:00AM
Tags: Addiction
Today is my 12th day free from Hydrocodone.  I had been using for about 6-7 months and it got up to around 100-120 mg per day.  I went into a 5 day inpatient detox and came out fine.  No cravings or anymore withdrawals.



Now here is my problem.  The Dr. gave me Trazadone to help me sleep.  That was working fine for the first week up until the last 2 nights.  I have had 2 VERY intense dreams each night.  The first night it woke me and I was able to go back to sleep.  Well, last night I had a continuance of the first nights dream and it woke me at 2:30 am and I had a tremendous amount of Rage in me.  I was not able to go back to sleep the entire night.  The dream involved my wife having an affair. I absolutely do not suspect that she is.  She works full time and we have 2 small children and that keeps her very occupied and we really have been getting along great since I kicked the Hydro. and we didn't rally have many problems before.



Can anyone relate to any of this
Member Comments (57)

by susanlea, Jul 13, 2001 12:00AM
To: pbinx
After my ex came out of a 5 day detox last year he was also on Trazadone to help him sleep. He told me he was having crazy dreams. He woke up a few times scared, said he was being chased and someone was trying to kill him. I believe he was as Wizard says "running from the Dragon" in other words he was running from himself and his addiction. He would have lots of trouble going back to sleep and sometimes he couldn't. He went off this drug complaining it was making things worse. But then of course he relapsed back to oxy's and perc's. He tried to get off everything again this las Feb. by himself. He got his Dr. to give him a perscription for Methadone. Unfortunately it didn't last long. Now he take's Methadone, oxy's, perc's and I'm afraid maybe even heroin(I've heard) He left us 4 months ago, to fight his own demons. The abuse, lies and stealing plus lack of affection and blame were more than our relationship could handle. I'm not an addict, but I have witnessed first hand what addictions do to people we love and relationships. Now after 6 years together I have lost him not to another women but to a pill that is more important than his kids, me or his life. Good luck to you, and congratulations! Well done. Be very proud of yourself and God Bless you....Susan

by Milo, Jul 13, 2001 12:00AM
To: pbintx
Hi, & welcome...oh, yes, I can relate. A few years ago when I temporarily went off benzodiazepines, even after tapering, I had very vivid, strange dreams for about a week -- intense colors, sensations, weird situations, etc. Occasionally (not related to withdrawal) I've had dreams like you describe, becoming enraged about something in the dream & waking up, taking a while to calm down. And unfortunately I'm battling insomnia right now. I don't know the explanation for the kind of dream you describe, but from what I know, I imagine it's related to some other aspect of your relationship or your life, which the affair represents in the dream. I haven't had any dreams like that in a long time, and I doubt there's any cause for you to worry. -- Milo

by skipper, Jul 13, 2001 12:00AM
To: Everyone § phintx
couple of things:

1) welcome to the forum.the fact that you  "jumped right in" says

a lot about your willingness to clean up your hand.

2) stay with us-you will find a unique blend of personalitys that

all have chronic pain and/or adddiction in common.

3) this forum can't do much for you if you just ghost it. you've

got to jump in and participate.





iwas in recovery through NA for 18 years. Befoe i used herione,

morphine,dilauded, & what ever else i could cook down in a spoon

and draw up into a hypo. A good sponcer, NA & the grace of God as

i uderstand him saved my life.

cervical spine problems led me to hydro's. after 2 surgerys, 1 attempt to end my miserable life, oxy contin in ever increasing doses, and lots of oxyir's here i am. this forum saved my ass.



about 10 years ago (i was still clean in recovery) i started having a repetitive dream, I & an old using budddy were lost in

a city in the pacific NW. We were trying to locate the local

methadone clinic so we could meet some junkys and score some black

tar heroin. the first time i awoke from this dream (it was somehow painfully beautiful) i remember thinking "damm that was far out,sort like a Guss VanZandt movie." i kept having this dream every night for 10 days. each night the dream became less beautiful & moe scarry. After the 10th. night i thought i was

going crazy. every thing at home or work some how either reminded

me of, or looked just like a big old spoon of black tar heroine

cooki' down! I started thinking & then believing the only way this

painful yet beautifull dream and the day time obcession, would go away was to use  drugs again. it was one of the worst periods i've

ever had clean. Pride or some other stupid **** kept me from talkin about it to anyone. I finally did confide all this **** to

a fellow member of NA.We talked several uours about it.I noticed

that the obcession was gone.no more visions of black tar h. cooking down. no more dreams of looking for the metadone clinic to

hook up with other junkys and score. An hour or two of talk with

another addict who wanted to be something more than a junky and it

was gone. that simple , that real.

please stick around- we all need each other!

kip

by cindi, Jul 13, 2001 12:00AM
To: TO EVERYONE ON THIS THREAD
AMEN, AMEN AND AMEN TO SKIPPER.....you have come such a loooong way in a short time....you are truly an inspiration...do you and wiz hang out?  LOL  you kind of remind me of each other....Love to all                              cin

by cindi, Jul 13, 2001 12:00AM
To: About Lorazepam and clonazepam
Has anyone heard about some kind of lawsuit involving lorezapam and clonazepam?  I caught the tail end of an announcement on TV re: the 2 drugs but didn't now what the reason was.....just wondering.....if I find out I'll let you in on it     love to all    cin

by Milo, Jul 14, 2001 12:00AM
To: Cindi
There was a notice at my pharmacy about a class action settlement (?) re lorazepam & tranxene, I think. As best I could tell, it had to do with overcharging for these drugs, not any safety issues.

by jennyfla, Jul 14, 2001 12:00AM
My husband was on trazadone after coming out of treatment 2.5 years ago and didn't care for the drug.  He's taken lorazapam and clonzapam, and this time around while in treatment, he is refusing to be given the trazadone again.  He is taking small doses of tranzine, but plans to discontinue shortly.  He wants absoluately nothing to do with any sort of mind altering medication forever.  He suffers from anxiety, but plans to deal with it in a natural way instead of taking any kind of medication for it.  He has refused antidepressants also.  He is getting ready to face the world drug-free, and is anxious to 'feel' everything (and i mean everything) again!!!!!

Looking forward to it infact.

Good luck to you all in beating your addictions, and having the opportunity to 'feel' everything, good and bad, again!!!!!

It's a major step, but i believe worth every inch!

Love Jenny

by Francoise, Jul 14, 2001 12:00AM
To: Everyone Angelica
Just back from vacation in San Francisco. Great to get away. Good to be back.



I took Trazadone as well about a year ago, and had bad dreams. Not only that, but my blood pressure dropped to 75/50. Then one afternoon about 30 minutes after a dose, my heart began to race so fast that my wife, who used to be in the medical field, could not count the beats. It was beating so fast, it was cavitating and not pumping much blood. It went away by itself. I've not taken another dose since.



I'm taking oxy for intractable back pain. As I said, I went to SF for a vacation. And listen to what I did with my drugs. I had a week's worth in one of those flat Certs containers in my wallet. I had an entire prescription in the safe in my room. My wife had a week's worth with her in Miami where she went to start her Ph.D. orientation (she was going to Fedex them to me in Miami if I ran into trouble - like theft from two different places.) My good friend in Savannah had the key to my home and knowledge of where I have another stash, ready to Fedex them to me on an instant's notice. And my daughter, who went with me to SF, had four days' worth in her purse (another trouble buffer).



That's FIVE sources of oxy that I'd arranged, four of which were backups just in case. Didn't need any of them. But I was amused at the lengths I went to insuring that I wouldn't face running out. If I was half as motivated to make money, I'd be filthy rich in a year.



ANGELICA - I just saw your 6.28 post. Yep, it's an S.I. joint problem, along with a crushed L4

by Francoise, Jul 14, 2001 12:00AM
To: Everyone Angelica - COMPLETED
Just back from vacation in San Francisco. Great to get away. Good to be back.



I took Trazadone as well about a year ago, and had bad dreams. Not only that, but my blood pressure dropped to 75/50. Then one afternoon about 30 minutes after a dose, my heart began to race so fast that my wife, who used to be in the medical field, could not count the beats. It was beating so fast, it was cavitating and not pumping much blood. It went away by itself. I've not taken another dose since.



I'm taking oxy for intractable back pain. As I said, I went to SF for a vacation. And listen to what I did with my drugs. I had a week's worth in one of those flat Certs containers in my wallet. I had an entire prescription in the safe in my room. My wife had a week's worth with her in Miami where she went to start her Ph.D. orientation (she was going to Fedex them to me in Miami if I ran into trouble - like theft from two different places.) My good friend in Savannah had the key to my home and knowledge of where I have another stash, ready to Fedex them to me on an instant's notice. And my daughter, who went with me to SF, had four days' worth in her purse (another trouble buffer).



That's FIVE sources of oxy that I'd arranged, four of which were backups just in case. Didn't need any of them. But I was amused at the lengths I went to insuring that I wouldn't face running out. If I was half as motivated to make money, I'd be filthy rich in a year.



ANGELICA - I just saw your 6.28 post. Yep, it's an S.I. joint problem, along with a crushed L4, a mis-shapen ankle bone, and other things. There's a four-inch titanium bolt through my pelvis into my spine holding things together. No relief from the pain, though, and the crushed L4 (a wedge fracture, actually) is nerve-involved. I never knew you could hurt so badly and so unrelieved. What in hell did they do before opiates? Die from pain?



THOMAS - Just an excuse to say hello my friend. Hope you can make it over here one day for that fishing trip. And I hope you're continuing to do well clean and sober. You're an inspriation to us all, I think. What is it now? five months clean? Think about you lots, and send energy to you too - the blue-white kind with the golden sparkles.



EVERYONE - Hang in friends. What a place this is. We all should get together in some central location, like St. Louis.



Peace and Love,



Frank

by Thomas, Jul 14, 2001 12:00AM
To: Francoise re Trazadone and other things
Greetings, my good friend. I do believe I'm feeling that energy you're sending (seriously). I'm afraid I haven't kept track of my time off of Darvon, being preoccupied by the considerably more difficult job of getting off of benzos without another seizure. On that front, I'm down to a couple of small doses per day, and am a few days away from stopping them altogether. Switching to Valium from Xanax before tapering was a brilliant idea and worked like a charm. Valium doesn't give you that roller coaster ride that Xanax or other short acting benzos do. I have additional motivation to quit because my doctor won't write for anymore (yes, I tried to put off seriously tapering as long as I could, until my doc "called my bluff.").



My very limited supply has been quite a good motivator as far as getting down doing real tapering. The Valium "hangs around" the system much longer than Xanax or