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Addiction as a disease

by lmk, Nov 25, 2001 12:00AM
What is the proof that addiction to drugs and alcohol is a disease? What are the differemces in the genetics or biology of a person who is addicted and one who is not?

Member Comments (13)

by cindi, Nov 25, 2001 12:00AM
There have been several studies re: this isssue if you send your email addy I will send you a link,,,,,to a helpful site,,,,,,cindi

by IrishRose, Nov 25, 2001 12:00AM
To: lmk
The *hallowed *American Medical Association recoginizes alcholism and drug addictions as diseases. They developed a classification system for all diseases to track occurence and numbers statistically. As far as genetic predisposition goes, some studies have been done to support this and others challenge that. I come from a family that sure as hell supports the genetic theory but many of my friends who are addicts were raised by Ward & June Cleaver and are still junkies. Go figure.

Cindi can send you some helpful links. Take care. IR.

by Thomas, Nov 25, 2001 12:00AM
drug addiction may be a disease, but it's acquired just like any disease -- by sick people, healthy people, dregs of society, pillars of the community ... even doctors.

by Witchywoman, Nov 26, 2001 12:00AM
There is some evidence that people who are predisposed to

alcohlism have a genetic difference that causes them to metabolize both alcohol and sugar differently, creating a craving for both.



I subscribe to the nature and nuture theory of addiction. Some forms of addiction may stem from metabolic and nutritional problems, but other forms are learned behavior, sustained by a culture that creates deep internal alienation and encourages people to seek quick fixes for the discomforts of living in an alientated world.  



However...there is no hard proof anywhere about what actually causes addiction.  All we can do is speculate, and live in the moment while working on "showing up" in our own lives..this, I believe, helps the chances of recovery.



my humble 2 cents.

love,

WW

by JamesE, Nov 26, 2001 12:00AM
Can someone become physically dependent on a drug such as Clonazepam ?  I have been taking the medicine for about seven years.  It was prescribed for sleeping problems and anxiety disorder.

by butterbean, Nov 26, 2001 12:00AM
To: Witchywoman , Wizard and everyone
Well, I had to go back on my meds.  The day before Thanksgiving, I said how am I going to get through this with this pain.  It was bad and I had already been on my feet two days, cleaning , cooking, etc., I am trying to take as perscribed, but, I have been bad a couple of days.  I know I need meds, and they seem to be the only thing that works.  I have got to be strong, and learn to take as perscribed.  I couldn't go to work today, my back is so bad.  I just wanted everyone to know, I was not strong enough with this pain to do without. I am sorry.

Love Butterbean

by Wizard, Nov 26, 2001 12:00AM
To: Butterbean
Goodmorning my friend! Listen up to the Wiz here....Taking your meds because you need them is nothing to be sorry about. There is a difference between taking meds for chronic pain and abusing them for the high. There is no shame in seeking intolerable pain relief. All of us do what we must to function and have a quality of life. Only you know what is right for you my friend. You owe no apology to us for anything. Be good to yourself and do what you must. I shall keep you in my thoughts and prayers as always.

Power & Magick 2 U,

Wiz

by Witchywoman, Nov 26, 2001 12:00AM
To: butterbean
Hi Butterbean,

I agree with Wizard.  If you need the meds for pain, there is no shame in that.  Your quality of life is what really matters! No one should have to live in intollerable pain.



The task of having to learn to use the meds for pain without abusing them is probably the hardest thing of all. I failed miserably over and over trying to do that, but others here are doing it successfully, so maybe they can give you some tips on how to manage it. I think just keeping yourself honest about what your body really needs versus what your mind wants goes a long way toward that goal. You've done great simply by telling us the truth about what you need!



love,

WW

by J.B. to Brian and Vicky, Nov 26, 2001 12:00AM
To: Butterbean
Butterbean, you scoundrel! You should have just "said no to drugs" and spent the whole Thanksgiving Day weekend in bed in misery and alone.



As for me, I had a wonderful time! I had to taste the egg nog a few times and swallow a few Vicodins. I'm not supposed to do either one of these things due to liver disease, but what the hell? You only live once and I want to do it on my feet having fun. Don't beat yourself, you're still here, I'm here and so are WW and Wizard. Take it easy and gear up for Christmas and New Years.  We are going to be just fine!



J.B.

by butterbean, Nov 26, 2001 12:00AM
To: Withcywoman, J.B. and Wizard
Thanks for your continued support.  I am not beating myself up, but, just want to learn to manage and just take them when I have a lot of pain.  Of course I haven't been doing that.  I go to the doc in morning, I want to ask him if there is something else out there besides narcotics that may work for me.  I have tried a lot of things since I was 23 and am now 47, and nothing worked until I got the narcotic.  If I can only make myself take when needed.  I hope all of you are fine, and J.B. the meds helped me get through Thanksgiving and I had so much fun!  If I hadn't taken them I would have been miserable and possibly worried all around me.  thanks again.  Stay strong, powerful.

Love Butterbean

by GingerLee, Nov 26, 2001 12:00AM
To: butterbean


Lighten up on yourself please do not feel bad for doing what you did. We really have a lot in common. The last time I had my meds filled I gave them to my husband and he gives them to me whenI need them. I also keep an assortment of herbs and vitamins where I used to keep my meds.  That way when I feel the need to take somethiing I get vitamins. I know it sounds odd , but it helps. So does chamomile tea.Try and stay positive, looke what you have done so far. Do not give up.

by butterbean, Nov 27, 2001 12:00AM
To: Gingerlee
Hi sounds like you are doing good!  I am going to try the herbs and vitamins.  Sometimes I think it is just a bad habit now and I have to pop some pill in my mouth.  I don't have anyone here who can give me the pills when I only need them.  I am starting tomorrow to not take them unless I really need one, if it doesn't work, I am going to give them to my ex and tell him to only let me come get one when I absolutely have to.  He is the only one who knows I take them like I do.  Stay strong and healthy Gingerlee.  You have become a good friend.

Love Butterbean

by Wizard, Nov 27, 2001 12:00AM
To: Butterbean,Ginger,J.B.,Telby
Hey there my friends. I've been trying to work my way down the board to give a howdy to you all but I keep getting pulled away at work here. Even so, you all are never away from my thoughts. Looks like I see some plans in the working here with some of you. I see a lot of determination brewing. Let me know whatever I can do to help. I'm here for you as much as time allows me to. If I do disappear from time to time, just know that I'm still thinking of you and praying for you.

Telby, are you out there? I haven't seen you post in a while and I was just wondering if you are okay.

Butterbean and Ginger, hang in there as the best is yet ahead of you. Freedom is wonderful and good things are in store for you both.

And you too J.B. my brother, looks like you kicked up some dust for Thanksgiving. GOOD FOR YOU! You know J.B., you help more people than you even know. Let me suffice it to say that I received a private message from one of those "lurkers" as they have been called, that said you put a big smile on their face and brought some sunshine to their world, as they share some of the same medical conditions as yourself. Sometimes it's the little things we do that we don't even know about that make a positive difference in the lives of our fellow human beings.

Anyhow I better get back to work before I have to fire myself for being non-productive LOL!

Power & Magick 2 U my friends,

Rainbows & Wiz Dust 2 U 2,

Luv Wiz
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